Der Winter ist fast vorbei. Können Sie eine Gasmangellage ausschließen?
Netzagentur-Chef Klaus Müller „Wir können einen Gasmangel 2023/24 nicht ausschließen“
Interview | Düsseldorf · Der Chef der Bundesnetzagentur schließt eine Gasmangellage für diesen Winter endgültig aus. Doch im nächsten Winter droht sie erneut. Klaus Müller spricht darüber, wie sich die Preise entwickeln und was aus Gasheizungen wird.

Klaus Müller vor seiner Behörde (Archivbild).
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