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Comedian und Aktivistin Enissa Amani „Eine Demokratie ist wie eine Beziehung“
Interview | Düsseldorf · Enissa Amani ist zu Gast bei den „Düsseldorfer Reden“. Wir haben mit ihr über Rassismus in Deutschland, Hassmails, ihre erste humanitäre Reise und die ihr drohende Haftstrafe gesprochen.

Enissa Amani geht im September mit neuem Comedy-Programm auf Tour.
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